Garden of the Castle of Mesnil-Saint-Firmin, French Heritage monument to Le mesnil st firmin

Mr. Charles Bazin, member of the Company of the Antique dealers of Picardy, writing:

'' In the suckers who survived the old castle of the Mesnil-Saint-Firmin (Oise), demolished in the middle of last century, I have meeting, registered on the walls, several names and dates historical of which I took stamping. The name of the count d' Estourmel, lord of the place at the sixteenth century, is there in two places; once without date, another time with the date 1530, written semi-part in Arab numerals and Roman, which makes it interesting.

Another historical date (1536) is coarsely read with the bottom of a bust trace, though with a certain insurance. The date points out the time to which Jean d' Estourmel made come from all his grounds, and in particular of that of the Mesnil-Saint-Firmin, his harvests of grains to supply the town of Fibula, assiegee by the count de Nassau.

The fourth stamping presents the weapons of Estourmel, the cross cretelee. They are escortees of a name which is unknown for me, of the date 1556, and of a sentence which does not indicate in its author a great detachment of the wordly goods (by gold and money all is done). At that time (1556), Jean d' Estourmel filled the load of general treasurer of the provinces of Picardy and with Champagne, charges which had been to him concedee by Fran?ois I er, in reward with its vigorous resistance to the seat with Fibula. Perhaps the sentence from which I come to speak refers it has this employment.

I add a last inscription which I could not read. If there is full confidence in the date 1237 which precedes it, it should be recognized that it presents a great interest, in what it is written in Arab numerals. It is known, indeed, that it is extremely rare to meet the Arab numerals has one time also reculee. The inscription is likely to make known, by the form of its characters, if the date 1237 is veracious or not. In another place of the cellars, this same inscription reproduces in a a little different form, and this time without date. I have bring closer these two stampings, so that it was easier to compare them between them. It would be interesting to know if these signatures are referred, like those of the sixteenth century, with the family of Estourmel, because it would be glorious for the commune of Mesnil-SaintFirmin to have belonged, already at the thirteenth century, for a long time has a family known then by her bravery.

Indeed, as of the year 1099, one of its members reached the first Crete of the walls of Jerusalem. It gained there its armorial bearings, the cross cretelee; its currency, Valiant on Crete, and the nickname of Creton, that this family carried indifferently with that of Estourmel until the sixteenth century, time to which the last prevailed.

To return from there at the date 1237, I will say that the cellars, by themselves, do not appear to me to have to invalidate it nor to confirm it. These cellars form two stages superimpose and identically similar. They extend in long corridors, regularly built and in average apparatus, but deprived of architectonic natures: without arches with the vaults, sculptures on the walls. ''

Source: Archaeological bulletin, Volume 2 by France. Historical committee of arts and monuments in 1842.

Garden of the Castle of Mesnil-Saint-Firmin
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Reported to be remarkable heritage of quality.

Structural information

Garden of the Castle of Mesnil-Saint-Firmin, « Garden of the Castle of Mesnil-Saint-Firmin » is a construction of the city of Le mesnil st firmin (France, Oise). Garden of the Castle of Mesnil-Saint-Firmin, French Heritage monument to Le mesnil st firmin le mesnil st firmin, oise

Location and general information

  • identifier : 99436
  • item : Jardin d'agrément du château de Mesnil-Saint-Firmin
  • Location of the building :
    • Oise
    • Le Mesnil-Saint-Firmin
  • INSEE code of the municipality : 60399
  • Zip code of the municipality : 60120
  • Order in the communal list : 1
  • Name of the building :
    • The building is designated as follows : garden
  • State :
    • the current state of the monument is not known.

Dates and times

  • Period of construction :
    • We have no information on the time of construction of this monument.
  • Investigation : 1993
  • Date taken into account : 2003/06/26

Construction, architecture and style

  • Materials:
    • We do not have this information.
  • Roofing :
    • We do not have this information.
  • Materials (roofing) :
    • We do not have this information.
  • Other about the composition roofs :
    • No information on the coverage of the place.
  • Floors :
    • any information about this construction.
  • Stairs :
    • No stairs mentioned on this construction.
  • Decoration of the building :
    • No information about decoration.
  • Representation :
    • No information on the ornamentation of the place.
  • Typology :
    • No information about typology.
  • Plan :
    • We do not know the type of plan for this building.

Monument and history of the place

  • Interest of the building : cote dossier environnement 066D.Dossier de jardin repéré
  • Elements protected MH (historical monument) :
    • Any particular element of the building is subject to protection in our database.
  • Constituent areas :
    • no information.
  • Parties constituantes étudiées :
    • no information.
  • Use :
    • We do not know the different uses that have been made of this construction.


  • Other :
    • other Information : private property
  • Author of the survey MH : Herviot Isabelle
  • Mérimée reference : IA60001444

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